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29 comments
OR97
February 26, 2019
Why search Alaska Airlines site for Virgin Australia availability? I have never seen them as any kind of partner with Alaska, nor have I seen any of their flight options come up with similar searches previously. What am I missing? Can you clear this up for me? Thanks
Stephen Au
February 27, 2019
Hey OR97,
This was a typo. It’s been updated. Thanks for reading and providing us feedback.
CericRushmore
August 04, 2019
This article is awesome! Thank you so much!
Jarrod West
August 04, 2019
We are glad you enjoyed it, Ceric! Thanks for reading!
CericRushmore
December 04, 2019
I’ve started to look at using Alaska miles for Cathay Pacific from IAD to AKL via HKG. Cathay is showing that they have a codeshare with Air New Zealand on the HKG to AKL route as one option. Can Alaska miles use that flight on Air New Zealand (Cathay Code Share) when I’m booking the trip? It looks like the HKG to AKL is a better schedule for getting to AKL then waiting for the Cathay flight.
Jarrod West
December 05, 2019
Hi Ceric,
If the flight options are showing as a codeshare with Cathay then yes it should be bookable. I would call Cathay to confirm this though!
Amber
August 28, 2019
This is very thorough, thanks! Do you all have any contacts with travel hackers that can help search these options and take in account client preferences and points? I have a points across Chase UR, AA, Amex – wondering how/if I can combine them to get the most value for me and my partner.
Thanks in advance!
Stephen Au
August 29, 2019
Hi Amber!
We do this all the time. Please send me an email at stephen@upgradedpoints.com to get started!
Tomas
September 18, 2019
Hello Stephen,
My fiancee and I are planning a honeymoon to New Zealand and Fiji. However, I was trying to look for the flights using the alaska air website and it doesn’t show! LAX-NAN-CHC
Do you know what the problem might be?
Thanks!
Andrew Kunesh
September 18, 2019
Hi Tomas, there may not be flight availability for the dates you’re searching. Generally, Fiji flights with availability will show up on Alaska’s site without issue. Try searching on alternative dates and you may have more luck in your search. Thanks and good luck!
CericRushmore
November 05, 2019
Great article. I’m trying to use Expert Flyer to set up alerts for United and AA, but I can’t quite figure out which Fare codes to use. Would you do an article on how to set alerts on ExpertFlyer for New Zealand to the US.
Stephen Au
November 05, 2019
Hi Charles,
Thanks for reading. Keep in mind that we are Upgraded Points, which is a travel and educational resource for learning how to earn and use points. If you’d like one-on-one, customized help booking your trips, there is a service available that will help you achieve this. You can contact me at stephen@upgradedpoints.com for more information.
Juliet
January 05, 2020
Thank you for this article. I’m interested in the ANA/United info as I have a lot of Marriott points and AmEx points. When I search United, I find award space in business class for 200K one way (SFO-AKL). Are you saying if that space is actually available, I can transfer the points to ANA, then call ANA to book at a lower redemption rate? I am new to this and finding the whole process pretty confusing.
Stephen Au
January 05, 2020
Hi Juliet,
Thanks for reading. In order to book these flights with ANA miles, you’ll need to find a specific type of availability, known as “Saver” availability. If the availability doesn’t fit the type of ticket that ANA has access to, then you can’t book it.
If you still need additional assistance using an ultra-personalized points wealth management and travel concierge to take the guesswork out of your points travel, please feel free to contact me directly at stephen@upgradedpoints.com to inquire about a monthly subscription service.
Thomas Edwards
April 07, 2021
I am confused…I am sitting on ~430K AA miles, and looking for 2 business class tickets for 1-way flights from Dallas to Auckland (AKL) in mid-March 2022. When I look at currently available AA flights from DFW to AKL I see that the seats are between 375K to 470K points each (and have been for some months back). What happened to the 110K flights – what am I missing – or is this just some sort of operator error only part?
What is the process for booking Air New Zealand or Fiji Airways using AA Points – and would they charge me the same points as AA (given the significantly reduced cash cost of Fiji Airways tickets??)
I also noted in your section “American Airlines AAdvantage Program” for the AA miles you had directed to
“Here’s how you can book on American Airlines:
Visit the British Airways website.
Log in using your BA username and password.”
Which seems really weird?
Jarrod West
April 12, 2021
Hi Thomas,
The prices that you are seeing for the dates that you’ve chosen are AA’s AAnytime pricing. In order to book for 110k, you need to locate SAAver award availability. This is notoriously difficult for business and first-class award flights to New Zealand and Australia, as airlines release very little space for these routes, and they usually get booked as soon as they are available.
You cannot redeem AA miles with Air New Zealand as they are not partners. You would want to use a Star Alliance program, like United, in order to book with them. For Fiji airways, American has set award partner pricing so using your AA miles to book with them would not change the price.
The reason the post states to begin your search through British Airways is because the British Airways website is often the best at locating Oneworld partner award space with all of the Oneworld member airlines. You can read more about why that is in our guide here: /travel/airlines/searching-oneworld-award-availability/
I hope that helps!
Marcini Thomas
September 02, 2021
Do Virgin Atlantic award flights vary in cost or do have set redemption rates? I would like to know: If I searched on United’s website showing a flight to New Zealand from San Francisco and saw availability for a specific date, would all I have to do is call Virgin Atlantic and book that flight with my Virgin Atlantic points and it would cost me whatever the redemption rate is for a flight of that length? Or will it be some randomly expensive amount of points that varies by the hour?
Stephen Au
September 08, 2021
Hi Marcini,
You should not experience variable award rates for Air New Zealand flights booked using Virgin Atlantic points. You can follow the award chart presented in this link below:
https://www.virginatlantic.com/us/en/flying-club/partners/airlines/air-new-zealand.html
Kathy Murphy
August 05, 2022
Just checked United.com for SFO to Auckland Non Stop Business Class. According to my search it is 360K each way. above you state 160K round trip. Your article is dated 7/22/2022 which is relatively current. Can someone please explain to me what I am missing and how to find a better deal?
Jarrod West
August 05, 2022
Hi Kathy,
You need to locate saver award space for the best pricing. This discounted award space can get booked very quickly so it is best to look as far in advance as possible.
Nick
December 07, 2022
Agreed. Every single date between today and October 2023 is 200k each way. I think the original article is probably much older than the updated date.
Stephen Au
December 07, 2022
Hi Nick,
Thanks for your feedback. 2 pieces of feedback as to why you’re seeing 200K dates:
1. Air New Zealand tends to dump availability only on 1 or 2 days every 6 months. But when they do dump availability, it tends to be quite generous with multiple days per week for 2 to 3 months straight. There’s no way to predict when Air New Zealand will do this, though. So you need to check back very often and be prepared to book as soon as you see this happen.
2. Air New Zealand’s flight availability is very sparse to begin with. You have to be super flexible if you want to get the best deals.
Mary H
August 22, 2022
Like Kathy, I was only finding United flights at 200k, so I am assuming the Saver Space is not available. (Trying to get a one way back from Auckland to LAX in late April 2023.)
But when I go to American’s site (and even if I log in), I cannot see any availability and it says my departure date needs to be changed. I am confused because I thought it had somewhere up to 331 days for availability. At one point the web page said something like I could not see that info until the end of December. Any idea whats going on?
Jarrod West
August 22, 2022
Hi Mary,
It may have just been an error on the website, have you checked back since then?
Lesley
September 26, 2022
Hi
Thanks for a great article and detailed steps. However there have been some changes since covid hit and it is extremely hard to find premium award flights from nz/Australia to the US now. Air NZ business class award space is virtually impossible to find even for air nz elite flyers due to aircraft and staffing shortages and flights being full from New Zealand and also Qantas flights being full.
Some of the changes to the NZ-US routes are as follows:
United and AA have dynamic pricing and flights US-NZ can have sky high points requirement for the premium cabins.
Cathay via Alaska miles is not an attractive option currently due to Hong Kong quarantine requirements.
Fiji airways availability in premium cabins virtually non existent
Air Nz no longer fly LHR-LAX. They canned this route a few years ago
AA flies via DFW to Auckland now, no direct flight from LAX-AKL
Emirates is no longer an alaska MP partner
Hawaiian via AA, in Y is an option if you can get a cheap flight to HNL from the US.Southwest have some phenomenal cheap fares to HNL sometimes if you book 3+months in advance
Very tough getting out of New Zealand on premium awards currently. I don’t think Air NZ are going to overcome their capacity problems for a while. There are huge labour shortages here currently.
Thanks for a great site though. I refer to it regularly.
A New Zealand reader
Lesley
September 27, 2022
An amendment to this post: Fiji airways business class is readily available AKL-Sfo on their A330 aircraft, however this is not lie flat. Their AKL-LAX is on their A350 which does have lie flat J. But these award seats are extremely hard to get unless you book 6+ months in advance.
Andrew
October 21, 2022
No love for Asia Miles? They have the 15% transfer bonus right now and their routing rules are insane and there is actually availability! 79k points to fly the long way in Qsuites from the states. It is $500 taxes and fees, but you can find flights. Plus, you get access to the Qatar lounge which is super nice.
Jose
January 29, 2023
I managed to find 1 flight from sfo-akl round trip that had PZ space each way. Grabbed it
Jenna
February 19, 2023
Am I doing something wrong? I can find ZERO award flights on British Airways from Dallas to Auckland. I’ve searched across several months for 2023 and absolutely nothing.
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