Always a fan of flying, Spencer wanted to find ways to upgrade his travel experience. Over the years, Spencer has been a guest speaker on multiple YouTube shows as well as podcasts on maximizing point...
Edited by: Kellie Jez
Kellie’s professional experience has led her to a deep passion for compliance, data reporting, and process improvement. Kellie’s learned the ins and outs of the points and miles world and leads UP’s c...
17 comments
Chris
November 02, 2020
“If you only need a one-way award ticket, Delta SkyMiles can book Upper Class for 85,000 miles plus only $5.60. Clearly, this is the cheapest out of pocket option.”
Would you please elaborate on how this is possible? I get the 85,000 points part; it’s the “… and $5.60” part that is throwing me off. All of the VS awards I see on Delta would have me paying a few hundred dollars in taxes and fees in addition to the 85k points.
Thanks.
Stephen Au
November 03, 2020
Hi Chris,
Thanks for reading.
The taxes and fees will be dependent on your route. Although it’s not currently $5.60 for flights from the U.S. to the U.K., you can still find Virgin Atlantic Upper Class awards for around $25 one-way per person.
Nan
May 19, 2021
Looking for Upper Class LAX-CDG. Virgin Atlantic website doesn’t allow paying with points in Upper Class. You can only search for Economy award. Is there a way around this?
Jarrod West
May 21, 2021
Hi Nan,
That does not appear to be the case when I perform an award search. It is likely that there might not be Upper Class availability on the date you’ve searched. If you don’t need to travel on specific dates, you can choose to search for dates within 1 week or within 5 weeks.
Heather Bull
June 20, 2021
I am trying to book upper class with points lax to London through Virgin. When I try to search flexible dates it still tells me there are no awards flights for these dates. If I can really get this deal I’m excited but it sounds too good to be true and I can’t figure out how to see them. Any help would be awesome! I have a ton of ultimate rewards points to transfer, just trying to find my flights.
Jonathan
January 30, 2022
Thanks for this detailed post!! Somehow I keep seeing different number of miles on Virgin Atlantic and Delta websites. Any help will be appreciated
March 13, 2022
JFK -> BOM on Virgin Atlantic : 85k miles + ~$600 taxes
JFK -> BOM on Delta: 145k miles + $63 taxes
What am I doing wrong? I thought the number of miles I see on Virgin Atlantic website and Delta website should be same?
If thats not the case, what is the best option to book that Virgin Atlantic business class route? Any other partner?
Stephen Au
January 30, 2022
Hi Jonathan,
The numbers you will see on the two websites will be totally different because Delta and Virgin Atlantic have completely different frequent flyer programs. These programs price the same flight differently. Ultimately, it depends on what points and miles you have, as well as how much you’re willing to pay in taxes and fees. Delta is more expensive with points but doesn’t have huge taxes and fees.
Nick
January 31, 2022
This looks like a great way to enjoy my first awards trip ever! I’m currently planning a trip in May 2022 from SF > Paris, Paris > London, then London > SF. I have 130k Chase UR points. FAQs point to using ANA for less points with round trip tickets. Am I able to get a good deal on the leg to London with cash maybe? Also, is this a better experience compared to United’s Polaris business class flights? Thanks for your time, happy flights.
Stephen Au
January 31, 2022
Hi Nick,
You can often find super-cheap flights from Paris to London paying out of pocket, so we definitely recommend that route. Save your Chase UR points for the long-haul flights!
United Polaris is a solid experience overall, but Virgin Atlantic’s new Upper Class option is probably the better choice. But not all routes have the new Upper Class, so try to do your homework in researching which routes have the new Upper Class.
Charlie
November 16, 2022
Thanks for all the info. I’m planning on booking an award flight SFO-LHR as well, and it doesn’t look like SFO-LHR has the new Upper Class option based on this post. I’m trying to book on Delta but couldn’t find any Virgin flights from SFO-LHR. Any idea how to search on Delta for awards?
Stephen Au
November 19, 2022
Hey Charlie – Delta’s website will give you Delta options by default. So I’d recommend finding either giving Delta a call and asking them to search for the specific flight number on Virgin Atlantic. Otherwise, you can also use Air France’s website to try to find Virgin Atlantic flights and verify with Delta that those flights are available.
Mark
April 25, 2022
Hi Steve,
Can you advise if there’s a way to use the 200k miles my wife has and the 40k I have to obtain an Upper Class flight to HKG from LHR (it’s advertised at the moment as 115k each so a total of 230k) for us both?
I’ve searched the Flying Club site with little luck, especially with the virtual assistant!!
Thanks for any help
Stephen Au
May 19, 2022
Hi Mark,
There used to be a way to transfer points at an expensive rate of £7.50 per 1,000 points, but that doesn’t currently seem to be offered anymore.
You can always buy more points!
Sherry
September 06, 2022
Thank you for your thorough and detailed work and for sharing it in such an easy-to-understand way! As a new card holder, this is exactly what I was looking for! Just wanted to say thanks!
Bob
February 05, 2023
Thanks for all the great info. I have just over 250,000 chase points and am heading to Lisbon from LAX in June with a return at the beginning of August. Trying to find he best way to use these miles for business or premium economy. I know the final leg from a major airport in Europe to Lisbon will be economy which is fine for a 2-3 hour flight. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated
Jarrod West
February 24, 2023
Hi Bob,
I would look into using the Flying Blue program and connecting through Paris/Amsterdam, or Iberia and connecting through Madrid. I’d also recommend you read through our guide on the best ways to fly to Europe with points and miles.
Joe s
June 11, 2023
Delta now charges 375k for London nyc with Virgin upper-class!
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