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leo
July 30, 2018
Fantastic article, so many points that i wrote down. Thanks a lot!
Darla Perry
May 09, 2019
Best airline to book business class LHR to US east coast with lots of Capital One transferable miles? (optimizing comfort)
Erin Miller
May 21, 2019
Hi Darla, this is what our contributor James has to say…
“Hi Darla! Great question. I recommend looking at Aeroplan award availability from London, particularly on Swiss, Austrian, Brussels, Lufthansa or United where there won’t be as many surcharges as on Air Canada. In most cases, you’ll have to connect, but Swiss, Austrian, Brussels, Lufthansa and United all have decent products, particularly Swiss and Austrian. If you’re feeling adventurous, I recommend trying Lufthansa’s First Class product – it’s wonderful. From LHR you could travel to Newark, Chicago, or Dulles on United, or you could connect in several different European cities with plenty of options to other cities on the eastern portion of the US. Try looking into Washington Dulles, since this is a Star Alliance hub, or also New York JFK, or Newark.”
The Big Easy Traveler
May 26, 2019
Another option for Aeroplan to Europe is on the new Egypt Air 787-9 out of IAD. Doing this IAD-CAI-ATH next month for 57.5k. If you book just to CAI, it’ll cost you 82.5k (Aeroplan), 78k (Lifemiles), 85k (United). Tack on another leg and the price decreases. I don’t think AV or UA can see this space yet.
Stephen Au
May 27, 2019
Hey The Big Easy Traveler,
Thanks for reading and we appreciate your feedback! Many of our travelers would prefer not to transit to Europe through Africa due to the lost time in connection. However, we definitely appreciate your feedback.
Doug
July 15, 2019
Hi great article! But how exactly does one proceed to book on a partner? For example, using Avianca miles to book SAS from Washington to Copenhagen. Of course this will not show up as a flight option on the Avianca site. Whose booking website do you use and how would you apply miles? I have lots of Chase Ultimate points that I can move around and some Citi Lifemiles to move around, but to who?? United? Avianca? SAS? Thanks, Doug
Stephen Au
July 15, 2019
Avianca’s mileage program is separate from their website. It is called LifeMiles. You can search directly on their website: Lifemiles.com.
Otherwise, you’ll have to play around with the dates to find availability. If you have lots of Chase points, you can transfer your points to United to book SAS, Avianca, or other Star Alliance partners.
TonyM
July 20, 2019
Hey guys – thanks for the amazing amount of effort you put into this post! Not gonna lie, my head is kinda spinning. So much to take in and try to understand.
I’m trying to understand how to transfer AMEX or UR points to a partner of theirs to get the best use of my points for flights to Milan or Rome, we’d also be fine if we had to go into one of the other major cities before catching another flight into Italy, next spring. Flying from LAX or even SFO, what would be our best method/who to transfer points to which airline? I think I understand once I get the points to say one airline I can then look for flights on a partner airline and then call the airline where my points (now miles) are with to book the flight. I’m just not sure which would be the best use of my points. – can you explain?
Thanks!
Stephen Au
July 22, 2019
Hey Tony,
Yes, booking award travel is complex, but those who decide to learn the ropes stand to gain tens of thousands of dollars that would otherwise be left on the table. To fly from LAX-MXP, try looking for Air Italy business class booked using British Airways Avios. Award availability tends to be excellent, and the product is underrated. The hard product is angled-flat seats, but the soft product is awesome. If you want to fly from the West Coast, your best bet is NOT going to be Alitalia business class.. as it’s nearly impossible to book for multiple passengers. Thanks for reading.
TonyM
July 22, 2019
Thank you Stephen! Yes, I’ve looked at how to move points to Avios, it seems straight forward. One thing I’m not super thrilled about with Air Italy is the angled-flat seats, I always feel like I’m going to slide down. It is still a better ride then a main cabin seat for 11 hours. I do appreciate your response!
Stephen Au
July 22, 2019
Hey Tony,
For what it’s worth, Air Italy’s angled-flat seats are more comfortable and closer to lie-flat seats than, say, regional business class seats. Thanks for reading.
TonyM
July 22, 2019
You’re probably right, it’s been years since I flew on AA when their business class seats were angled. I’m sure there have been improvements on the quality.
Angela
August 21, 2019
Thanks for this very in-depth and well-researched article. We have a baby we’d like to take as a lap infant (please don’t kill us…) next summer to Scandinavia (ARN and then returning from OSL) from SFO. We used to be willing to bend over backward and take longer flight paths to use points and fly business/first, but with a baby in tow, I think we are valuing shorter travel time significantly more. Any tips on how to optimize searches? If we can fly business/first from SFO or even LAX directly to somewhere in Europe, we’d be fine taking economy on a (presumably) short flight to Scandinavia.
Jarrod West
August 23, 2019
Hi Angela,
What type of points and miles do you have at your disposal? If you’re wanting to fly business class round-trip between California and Scandinavia your best option would probably be to fly out of LAX and use Amex Membership Reward points to book a round-trip award through ANA on Scandinavian Airlines metal. This route would only cost 88,000 points per person, which is really exceptional value for a round-trip business class flight.
To search for availability for this flight you’ll want to search on the ANA and United websites.
Thanks for reading!
Dano
September 28, 2019
Hi, I have over 230K Amex Membership Rewards points. I would like to transfer to an airline where I can book a family of 5 or as many as I can to Ireland using my points. I would use PHL/EWR/JFK or, if necessary BOS, as departure airports depending on how many points are required per round trip ticket.
Which airline should I transfer the amex points into? Avios or others? Thanks!
Andrew Kunesh
October 08, 2019
Hey Dano!
Great question – I recommend using British Airways Avios to book Aer Lingus awards. New York (JFK) to Dublin (DUB) is 41,500 Avios per round-trip ticket per passenger in economy class, so you’d be able to book all 5 passengers on award tickets. You can find Aer Lingus availability by searching for flights on United.com – when doing this, look for Saver tickets operated by Aer Lingus as this is what can be booked with British Airways Avios. Once you’ve found flights, note the flight numbers and call British Airways Executive Club to book. Unfortunately, Aer Lingus awards cannot be booked online with Avios.
Please don’t transfer your miles until you’ve found award space and have verified it with a British Airways phone representative. Transfers are instant, so you can transfer right before booking on the phone.
Thanks and safe travels!
Keana A
November 25, 2019
I want to find 2 business seats from SFO to Rome around 5/12 and return around 5/25. There are plenty of UA seats for 155K one way but I’m hoping to find something with fewer points. Any suggestions on where I might look?
Jarrod West
November 25, 2019
Hi Keana,
What type of points are you hoping to use to book your trip?
Keana
December 21, 2019
I prefer to use Chase points but have Amex points also.
Keana
December 21, 2019
I have both Chase and Amex points and able to fly out of SFO or SJC to Venice or Rome.
Jarrod West
December 23, 2019
Hi Keana,
The best option would be to use your Amex points and transfer them to ANA. You can get a round-trip business class ticket between SFO and FCO or VCE for 88k Amex points per person.
Another option would be to go through Virgin Atlantic, which is a transfer partner of both Chase and Amex. Through Virgin Atlantic, you would need to pay 100k points per person, for round-trip business class tickets.
I hope this helps!
jess
December 27, 2019
I’m trying to fly to Rome and Venice, we currently have points with Chase, Amex, and Capital One. Any suggestions on where to transfer our points to get the best value? thank you!
Jarrod West
December 27, 2019
Hi Jess,
Have you seen our post on the best ways to fly to Italy with points and miles? I think you will find it very helpful!
/best-ways-to-fly-to-italy-with-points
Thanks for reading!
Jamie
December 31, 2019
Thank you for the detailed article. I’m trying to find business class lay flat seats from IAH for 6, using Marriott points, flying around June 6th for a 15 day trip to Greece. We could split three and three if we half to but we are traveling with kids and I really don’t want to do that to my husband, kids, or myself!
Jarrod West
December 31, 2019
Hi Jamie,
To minimize your post costs, your best options with Marriott points would likely be through Asiana, Korean Air, or ANA. Although, finding 6 business class award seats on the same flight can be difficult depending on the destination and time of year, so you may need to be flexible with your dates.
For Asiana and ANA, use the United website to search for award space. For Korean Air you can use their own website, as well as Delta and Air France, but make sure you make note of which airline is operating the flight and do not transfer any points until you’ve located the award space, confirmed it’s available, and placed it on a courtesy hold (if allowed).
Thanks for reading!
Charles Mix
January 29, 2020
Hello, I am trying to book an awards ticket LAX/ZRH/LAX on dates 17 Sept / 27 Sept. I have a little flexibility but not much. I have 225,000 Delta miles, but it seems (if I am looking correctly) that DL SkyMiles is charging 465,000 miles for Delta One RT. KLM and AF are charging over 300,000 miles for their business class awards. You mention in your article that DL partner airlines might offer RT business class award tickets to Europe from 150,000 miles. How might I find these?
Stephen Au
January 30, 2020
Hi Charles,
In general, it’ll be hard to book this flight using Delta miles.
To find these cheaper tickets, you need to have more flexibility and/or better planning in-advance. The best time to search for flights is almost always 11-12 months before departure. The only thing you can do is check back frequently to see if there’s any additional tickets that are released and you can redeem for lower cost.
Charles V Mix
January 31, 2020
Thank you. I appreciate the advice.
George
March 04, 2020
Need to fly DFW to BUH (Bucharest, Romania) around April 15 and back the 22. I have chase miles, Amex points and 180k of united miles. What is my best bet for business class?
Jarrod West
March 04, 2020
Hi George,
Depending on how many Amex Membership Reward points you have, using them to book with ANA would likely be your best bet. The ticket should cost around 90k miles round-trip. Search for availability with United.
cynthia brown
October 26, 2020
We are dreaming ( planning ) to see the Northern Lights in Finland/Lapland in Spring 2022. ( originally planned for 2021 ) Would like to fly from Birmingham Alabama or Atlanta Georgia to Helsinki on business class…Plan to gather the requisite miles to accomplish this in the next bit…. have a ton of UR points; some Delta, American and United. What kind of mile to target? Thanks in Advance.
Jarrod West
October 26, 2020
Hi Cynthia,
I would continue trying to amass as many Chase points as possible – transferable programs offer you the greatest flexibility when it comes time to redeem. American Airline miles are also a great option for flights to Helsinki.
Gail
February 06, 2021
I’d love to visit Riga, Latvia. Are there any cities within a short train trip that would be a better award flight destination to save miles? coming out of New York, Philly or DC. I have United, American. Delta, BA, and Chase miles/points.
Jarrod West
February 08, 2021
Hi Gail,
That depends on what you would categorize as a short train trip. But given Riga’s location, there aren’t really any nearby “major” cities/airport (based on the number of travelers) that would help you save miles. Flying from the east coast of the U.S. would definitely be your best bet though in terms of the outbound flight. If you can locate a cheap cash fare, then using your Chase points and booking through the Chase portal might be a great option.
Carla
September 09, 2022
Such great information! Thank you! I am a newbie to all this! I am wanting to use AA Advantage points from the cheapest airport around Little Rock – DFW, Memphis, etc) to Venice in later July of 2023 for 2 adults ( I am a “senior” in case that matters… ) We will be heading home from Barcelona in early August, 2023. When should I “book” and any other tips you have would be greatly appreciated!
Jane
January 12, 2023
Hello! I’m trying to fly business class for two from IAD to LHR for 7 days in September 2023 and I see availability on United but I don’t see the availability on ANA. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong?
Jarrod West
February 09, 2023
Hi Jane,
If you are planning to book through ANA, try calling their customer support team and giving them the flight details that you are seeing on the United website. If it is bookable through ANA then they can do it manually for you on their end.
Mike
February 06, 2023
Tried finding the Delta One flight from ATL to AMS you referenced.
Searched every day for next 3 months and lowest one way found was 375000 points, where in the hell did you find same flight for 30% the points for 120000 points?
Jarrod West
February 28, 2023
Hi Mike,
That is the best possible pricing if saver space is available. Delta now uses a dynamic pricing model so the prices of award tickets can vary wildly. Due to that, it is best to be as flexible as possible with what dates you fly, and to book as far in advance as you can.
Jay
March 03, 2023
Hi there, searching business class for 2 people on September 11 or thereabouts NYC to European Hub and connect to Corsica. Return 10 days/2 weeks later via Paris. I have close to 174k in Chase points. Dates are somewhat flexible in that date range. Any guidance/strategies would help this honeymoon planner?
Chris Hassan
April 24, 2023
Hey Jay,
You could start by using a point search engine like point.me, which will give you a rough idea of your options, and then dive deeper once you find something that you like. /news/bilt-point-me/
BnB
August 14, 2023
Hi. Am i doing something wrong? All dates for United partners in business showing around 200k to 295k for one way. Is that possible?? Thanks
Jarrod West
August 14, 2023
Hi BnB,
It is likely the dates you are searching for don’t have saver award space available. Try using a tool like seats.aero to locate better award pricing.
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